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The Wolverine Stack debate misses the point (and needles)
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The Wolverine Stack debate misses the point (and needles)

There's some bold claims out there about BPC-157, the recovery and rehab peptide, but if you look you can also find modest claims as well.

Whenever some big change hits the world, the conversation goes the same way:

  • People on the frontier dive in and pat each other on the back for seeing the future (mistakes get made).

  • The mainstream rolls its eyes, clutches its pearls, wrings its hands and says “tsk, tsk, tsk” (opportunities get missed).

  • Eventually Matthew Yglesias and Scott Alexander write very long posts about them. No one reads both.

Diamond Rhino, the inimitable podcast, sits in the middle of all that. It puts the frontier and the mainstream together on one show and asks if there aren’t some good points made on both sides.

So, here we are in week two of our coverage of peptides, the industry that’s already bigger than video games were when everyone got surprised that video games were bigger than Hollywood about a decade ago.

The only people who aren’t behind on this issue are in too deep.

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So, this week, I dig into claims focus have made about BPC-157 (mostly) and also TB-500, the two grey market peptides that often get combined into what’s known as “The Wolverine Stack” — because they are each thought to help people heal.

It’s just that they don’t help everyone heal! And when they do help, results vary! And also people keep making themselves sick, but not because of what was put in the vials.

More on all of this on today’s episode. Are you hyped? (we’re against hype about everything except this newsletter).

But here’s the part you’re not going to expect but is actually going to really help ground you through the conversation: We’re going to start with some really modest claims from people you have never heard of.

Anecdotes aren’t data, but they are information.

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Sources

Joe Rogan Experience #1683 - Andrew Huberman
June 27, 2024

BPC-157: Everything You Need to Know—Benefits, Risks, Dosing, & Delivery Methods
Quinn Stilson MD
June 12, 2025

Why I Stopped BPC-157 and TB-500 Peptides
April 26, 2024
Bill Maeda

I Took The Wolverine Stack & My Thoughts On BPC-157 & TB-500
Dr. Josh Jagoda
October 19, 2025

My Experience with BPC-157 | Peptides That ENHANCE HEALING?
Stephanie Wolff, PA
July 15, 2022

My BPC-157 story
Jake Watkins
Aug 20, 2025

How BPC157 and TB500 Changed My Life A Personal Account (Peptide Therapy)
Gabriel Picado
June 23, 2024

I Analyzed the Wolverine Stack Evidence—Here's What I Found (BPC-157 & TB500 Peptides)
Dr. Chris Raynor | Not Your Everyday Ortho
March 14, 2026

Doctor Admits — I Was WRONG About The Wolverine Stack
Dr. Ashley Froese
Mar 10, 2026

Notes

Jake Watkins follow up video, Jan 6, 2026

14 Peptides Are About to Become Legal Again — What This Means for Your Health, Meto, March 12, 2026

Nevada Regulators Fine Peptide Providers at Anti-Aging Festival Where Two Women Became Critically Ill, Propublica, March 13, 2026

A Las Vegas Festival Promised Ways to Cheat Death. Two Attendees Left Fighting for Their Lives, Propublica, July 29, 2025

Music in the episode:

Data Breach” by FASSounds

Fortnite Roblox Minecraft Video Game Music,” by MFCC

Abstract Glitch Hop” by The Mountain

Bitcoins going up” by SunoMusicShowYouTube

All from Pixabay Music

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